tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post6532787809202145593..comments2024-01-04T04:38:50.365+00:00Comments on A Liberal Dose: Extremists to the left of me, fundies to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with EvanLiberal Neilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00550999774301073111noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-59207372683945841082010-05-10T12:32:16.872+01:002010-05-10T12:32:16.872+01:00'the vast majority of local residents'? Be...'the vast majority of local residents'? Best wishes, Dr Christopher ShellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-1725699158778042342010-05-01T19:10:24.192+01:002010-05-01T19:10:24.192+01:00Thanks Daphne.
I see that the Catholic Nesw Agenc...Thanks Daphne.<br /><br />I see that the Catholic Nesw Agency report suggests that 80% of women aborting their first pregnancy subsequently suffer from depression, but quite a lot of the commentary on the study suggests that it was 80% <i>of those who suffer psycological problems after aborting their first pregnancy</i> which is quite a different suggestion.<br /><br />Also there has been a lot of criticism of the methodology of several of the studies into the issue.<br /><br />It is suggested that there is a correlation between those women who suffered psycological problems before the pregancy and those who suffered problems afterwards.<br /><br />What do you think about this point?Liberal Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327253141887509972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-72034341049545458482010-05-01T16:18:36.962+01:002010-05-01T16:18:36.962+01:00Neil,
For example:
http://www.catholicnewsagency.c...Neil,<br />For example:<br />http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/study_finds_depression_suffered_by_80_of_women_who_abort/<br /><br />DaphneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-29881848907677285812010-05-01T11:10:48.120+01:002010-05-01T11:10:48.120+01:00Daphne,
I'm trying to find any research on &#...Daphne,<br /><br />I'm trying to find any research on 'Post Abortion Syndrome'.<br /><br />Can you point me to any?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Neil.Liberal Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00550999774301073111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-54089614203543954942010-04-30T16:53:47.124+01:002010-04-30T16:53:47.124+01:00Jeff,
There is a clear difference between being i...Jeff,<br /><br />There is a clear difference between being in favour of a change in the law to allow assisted dying under certain conditions, and being 'enthusiastic about euthanaisa'. the first is a considered position based on compassion for those who are suffering, while the latter suggests enjoyment at the idea that people may die.<br /><br />This is therefore a misrepresentation of Evan's position, and, I guess, deliberate.<br /><br />A similar point applies to Evan's position on abortion.<br /><br />In fact Evan supports policies that he beleives would lead to young more young people leaving itlater before they have sexual intercourse, reduce the number of unwanted pregmacies and, in turn, the number of abortions.<br /><br />That does not suggest 'enthusiasm for abortions', quite the opposite.<br /><br />Evan is not 'against Christian counsellors being allowed to offer advice and information to any woman before having an abortion'. he is more than happy for them to offer it. He just doesn't believe women should be forced to have it, a very different position.<br /><br />And yes, Evan does not beleive publicly funded schools should be allowed to discriminate on religious grounds in their admissions policies. That is not the same thing as 'campaigning to close faith schools'.<br /><br />I fully appreciate that you may not agree with Evan on these issues, as is your right.<br /><br />But personally I do not like it when anyone's position is grossly exagerated or distorted, particularly when I know that Evan's motivation on these sensitive issues is driven by compassion for people who are suffering.<br /><br />Neil.Liberal Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327253141887509972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-12571649548410310582010-04-30T16:49:55.636+01:002010-04-30T16:49:55.636+01:00Alix,
Life is a national charity that also provide...Alix,<br />Life is a national charity that also provides housing and shelter for women who have decided to keep their babies in the face of pressure from "partners" and families to have abortions. As a result of exercising their choice to say "I want my baby" they are kicked out of home by their "pro-choice" relatives and boyfriends. Life helps them. <br /><br />Life also provides counselling and support to women who have had abortions and are suffering the form of clinical depression known as Post Abortion Synrome - a condition suffered by thousands of women as a result of having abortions and then realising too late the emotional and psychological problems that result. This is never mentioned by abortion providers (or the parliamentary advocates of abortion).<br /><br />So you see, organisations such as Life see at first hand the ruined lives that abortion causes. No wonder they oppose Evan Harris when he actively campaigns for more and easier abortion access.<br /><br />DaphneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-32855702627220772212010-04-30T14:51:40.000+01:002010-04-30T14:51:40.000+01:00Thank you for your response. So everything else in...Thank you for your response. So everything else in that leaflet is accurate, then? That leaves most of what they're saying as intact.<br /><br />I think it's fairly untenable to argue that Evan Harris is not enthusiastic about abortion and euthanasia when he has one of the most active campaigning and voting records in favour of both those practices of any MP in the Commons. I'd say that demonstrated what could fairly be described as enthusiasm. <br /><br />Evan Harris is against Christian counsellors being allowed to offer advice and information to any woman before having an abortion (and not just for foetal abnormality). That's more disturbing.<br /><br />As for church schools, it is a policy in the Liberal Democrat manifesto that a LibDem government would ban church schools from selecting on the basis of faith, which in effect would mean closing down church schools or changing them into secular schools. Presumably he supports that.<br /><br />Jeff GrahamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-35869055390017672772010-04-30T12:46:13.456+01:002010-04-30T12:46:13.456+01:00Thanks Alix,
Lynda Rose is well known to us and h...Thanks Alix,<br /><br />Lynda Rose is well known to us and has been campaigning against Evan for many a year, as she is entitled to do.<br /><br />Please do spread the word about how people can help Evan though!Liberal Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00550999774301073111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-49044856788413047752010-04-30T12:38:36.673+01:002010-04-30T12:38:36.673+01:00Results of a bit of googling which you may or may ...Results of a bit of googling which you may or may not have done:<br /><br />The second leaflet is "promoted by Lynda Rose" of an address in Oxford. "Lynda Rose" is also the contact name for the Oxford branch of a charity called Life. Their website suggests they are opposed to stem cell research, sex before marriage, and promotion of contraceptives. One of their projects is going into schools to promote pro-life views. They are a limited company as well as a charity and offer a range of fertility and counselling services and sell baby clothes and equipment.Alixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08579998688536737861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-34717177309892709172010-04-29T20:30:29.000+01:002010-04-29T20:30:29.000+01:00Happy to.
Evan is not 'enthusiastic' abou...Happy to.<br /><br />Evan is not 'enthusiastic' about abortion. In fact he supports policies which would redeuce the number of unwanted pregnacies in the first place in order to reduce the level of abortions.<br /><br />Nor is he 'enthusiastic' about voluntary euthanasia.<br /><br />He is not against women having access to information and counselling before having an abortion for foetal abnormality.<br /><br />Evan has never campaigned for the closure of church schools.Liberal Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327253141887509972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7919375.post-78341383755064053532010-04-29T19:35:19.684+01:002010-04-29T19:35:19.684+01:00"Both leaflets are riddled with inaccuracies ..."Both leaflets are riddled with inaccuracies and untruths and misrepresent Evan's views on many of the issues mentioned."<br /><br />As far as the second leaflet is concerned, it seems to me to be factual summary of his voting and campaigning record. Would you mind pointing out the inaccuracies and untruths?<br /><br />Jeff GrahamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com